법적지위위원회 제6차 회의요록
Tokyo, July 10, 1958
THE GIST OF TALKS 6TH SESSION THE MEETING OF THE COMMITTEE ON LEGAL STATUS OF KOREAN RESIDENTS IN JAPAN
1. Time and place: From 10:30 a.m. to 11:00 a.m. on July a, 1958 in Roam 411 of the Japanese Foreign Ministry
2. Conferees:
The Korean side: MR. YIU, Tai Ha
MR. LEE, Ho
MR. CHOI, Kyu Hah
MR. EA, Chai Hang
MR. CHIN, Pil Shik
MR. PARK, Young
MR. HAN, Ki Bong
ME. LIMB, To Kyong
MR. LEE, Won Ho
MR. ROH, Jai Won
The Japanese side : MR. YASUSUKE KATSUNO
MR. KENTA HIRAGA
MR. SHINZO HASEGAWA
MR. TOYOKICHI NAKAGAWA
MR. MINORU IMAI
MR. KIYOSHI SUGANUMA
MR. MINAO TSUCHIYA
MR. KEN IKEBE
3. The gist of talks:
MR. KATSUNO:
As we promised at the preceding meeting of this Committee, we present to you now categorically listed criteria for deportation of aliens. However, they are presented not as a proposal but as same grounds on which discussions may be made.
As we repeatedly said, deportation decisions are not made at random. Decisions for deportation are made categorically in accordance with justiciable ground in connection with interests of Japan. The first category of aliens for deportation is those who are contacted as guilty at courts. According to what I have heard on this category Korea agreed to the deportation of those Koreans who are coming under this category. What is your opinion regarding this?
MR. YIU:
I hope you will refrain from raising questions one by one. I think at the preceding Committee meeting, your side said that it would present A draft idea regarding the deportation of Koreans to us in a written form. I wonder if your side is ready to do so.
MR. KATSUNO:
Our side is not ready to do so at this meeting.
MR. YIU:
Unless your draft idea be presented in a written form, our side will not be able to make a careful over-all study on it.
MR. KATSUNO:
Do you mean that you are not able to give us your opinion on it today, if we present our draft plan verbally?
MR. YIU:
As the matters which we are taking up are of great importance to us, our side will us able to give our opinion only after our side has made a careful study on your draft plan to be presented to this meeting in a written form.
MR. KATSUNO:
Our side will enumerate categorically listed criteria now, and our side will expect your side to express opinion not today but some other time.
MR. YIU:
Anyway, our side would like to have it in a written, or printed form.
MR. KATSUNO:
Now our side will enumerate criteria so that your side may give us a notion whether your side thinks them acceptable or not, though we expect your side will express your detailed opinion later. They are:
1) Those who have been convicted guilty at a judicial court
2) Those who have engaged in some sort of unclean earnings such as prostitution etc., though not convicted guilty
3) Those who have assisted illegal entries
4) Lepers and persons of psychosis
5) "Illegal sojourn", that is, those who failed to observe immigration regulations
6) Those who intend to subvert the constitution or Government of Japan or intend to harm national interests of Japan.
We think these aliens should not be allowed to stay in Japan and their deportation is natural. In this regard, our side is desirous of deciding categorically criteria on the acceptance of the deportees.
MR. YIU:
Is what you have just enumerated a rearrangement of provisions of the so-called Japanese Immigration Control Ordinance, or a result of studies made by your side taking into your consideration the special backgrounds of the Koreans in Japan?
MR. KATSUNO:
It is to a great degree similar to the provision concerned of the Immigration Control Ordinance. Our side hoped that these will be basis of our future discussions.
MR. YIU:
It is not very clear to our minds, if we are merely told orally. It your side present them to us in paper, we will make a study on them.
MR, KATSUNO:
We will give you them in writing later.
MR. YIU:
Do you have anything else to say?
MR, KATSUNO:
Nothing particular.
MR. YIU:
Our side will give studies on them, if your side give us them in a written form. Our side, however, would like to say that what you have mentioned are very far from our expection. We wish you to be more sincere on the matter.
MR. KATSUNO:
We will give them to your side in a written form. However, they will be just the same as what our aide said just now. Since the problem will be the same, why wouldn't you give us your opinion today with a view to expediting the progress of the Committee works.
MR. YIU:
Despite the Japanese side has repeatedly said that the Japanese side will take into its consideration the special backgrounds of the Koreans in Japan it does not seem that your side has done so, viewing what you have said today. Anyhow, give us what you have said now in a written form.
MR. KATSUNO:
It is natural that Japan should like to adhere to her Immigration Control Ordinance, and that Japan is authorized to deport 'undesirable' aliens. As your side will have a similar law in your country and in view of the fact that your side has insisted on the special backgrounds of the Koreans in Japan, it will be convenient for the proceeding of the Committee meeting if your side will present your proposal in this regard. Then we will be able to consult with ministries concerned over your proposal.
MR. YIU:
As I said to you just ago, we will make studies on your idea if you present it to us in letters. At any rate, isn't it correct to say that since your side recognised the special background of the Koreans, your side ought to take them into your consideration?
MR, HIRAGA:
What do you mean by the special backgrounds of the Koreans in Japan?
MR. YIU:
We understand that you know them very well. lt will take quite a time and give displeasure to your side if we should explain here them all. Since the special backgrounds of the Koreans in Japan have been repeatedly referred to so far, we don't think it necessary to explain them all over again here.
MR. KATSUNO:
We hope your side will give us your opinion categorically at next meeting.
MR. YIU
We will not be able to do so unless your side gives us your idea written on paper.
MR. KATSUNO
May we send them to you within two or three days?
MR. YIU:
Then, send them to me.
MR. KATSUNO
When shall we hold next meeting?
MR. YIU:
As our side has not received written materials of your side and our side must make studies on them when presented to us, our side will contact you after that.
MR. KATSUNO:
No objection.
MR. YIU:
How about press release?
MR. KATSUNO:
How about releasing that at the Committee meeting, both sides exchanged general views on the treatment of the Koreans in Japan?
MR. YIU
No objection.
1. Time and place: From 10:30 a.m. to 11:00 a.m. on July a, 1958 in Roam 411 of the Japanese Foreign Ministry
2. Conferees:
The Korean side: MR. YIU, Tai Ha
MR. LEE, Ho
MR. CHOI, Kyu Hah
MR. EA, Chai Hang
MR. CHIN, Pil Shik
MR. PARK, Young
MR. HAN, Ki Bong
ME. LIMB, To Kyong
MR. LEE, Won Ho
MR. ROH, Jai Won
The Japanese side : MR. YASUSUKE KATSUNO
MR. KENTA HIRAGA
MR. SHINZO HASEGAWA
MR. TOYOKICHI NAKAGAWA
MR. MINORU IMAI
MR. KIYOSHI SUGANUMA
MR. MINAO TSUCHIYA
MR. KEN IKEBE
3. The gist of talks:
MR. KATSUNO:
As we promised at the preceding meeting of this Committee, we present to you now categorically listed criteria for deportation of aliens. However, they are presented not as a proposal but as same grounds on which discussions may be made.
As we repeatedly said, deportation decisions are not made at random. Decisions for deportation are made categorically in accordance with justiciable ground in connection with interests of Japan. The first category of aliens for deportation is those who are contacted as guilty at courts. According to what I have heard on this category Korea agreed to the deportation of those Koreans who are coming under this category. What is your opinion regarding this?
MR. YIU:
I hope you will refrain from raising questions one by one. I think at the preceding Committee meeting, your side said that it would present A draft idea regarding the deportation of Koreans to us in a written form. I wonder if your side is ready to do so.
MR. KATSUNO:
Our side is not ready to do so at this meeting.
MR. YIU:
Unless your draft idea be presented in a written form, our side will not be able to make a careful over-all study on it.
MR. KATSUNO:
Do you mean that you are not able to give us your opinion on it today, if we present our draft plan verbally?
MR. YIU:
As the matters which we are taking up are of great importance to us, our side will us able to give our opinion only after our side has made a careful study on your draft plan to be presented to this meeting in a written form.
MR. KATSUNO:
Our side will enumerate categorically listed criteria now, and our side will expect your side to express opinion not today but some other time.
MR. YIU:
Anyway, our side would like to have it in a written, or printed form.
MR. KATSUNO:
Now our side will enumerate criteria so that your side may give us a notion whether your side thinks them acceptable or not, though we expect your side will express your detailed opinion later. They are:
1) Those who have been convicted guilty at a judicial court
2) Those who have engaged in some sort of unclean earnings such as prostitution etc., though not convicted guilty
3) Those who have assisted illegal entries
4) Lepers and persons of psychosis
5) "Illegal sojourn", that is, those who failed to observe immigration regulations
6) Those who intend to subvert the constitution or Government of Japan or intend to harm national interests of Japan.
We think these aliens should not be allowed to stay in Japan and their deportation is natural. In this regard, our side is desirous of deciding categorically criteria on the acceptance of the deportees.
MR. YIU:
Is what you have just enumerated a rearrangement of provisions of the so-called Japanese Immigration Control Ordinance, or a result of studies made by your side taking into your consideration the special backgrounds of the Koreans in Japan?
MR. KATSUNO:
It is to a great degree similar to the provision concerned of the Immigration Control Ordinance. Our side hoped that these will be basis of our future discussions.
MR. YIU:
It is not very clear to our minds, if we are merely told orally. It your side present them to us in paper, we will make a study on them.
MR, KATSUNO:
We will give you them in writing later.
MR. YIU:
Do you have anything else to say?
MR, KATSUNO:
Nothing particular.
MR. YIU:
Our side will give studies on them, if your side give us them in a written form. Our side, however, would like to say that what you have mentioned are very far from our expection. We wish you to be more sincere on the matter.
MR. KATSUNO:
We will give them to your side in a written form. However, they will be just the same as what our aide said just now. Since the problem will be the same, why wouldn't you give us your opinion today with a view to expediting the progress of the Committee works.
MR. YIU:
Despite the Japanese side has repeatedly said that the Japanese side will take into its consideration the special backgrounds of the Koreans in Japan it does not seem that your side has done so, viewing what you have said today. Anyhow, give us what you have said now in a written form.
MR. KATSUNO:
It is natural that Japan should like to adhere to her Immigration Control Ordinance, and that Japan is authorized to deport 'undesirable' aliens. As your side will have a similar law in your country and in view of the fact that your side has insisted on the special backgrounds of the Koreans in Japan, it will be convenient for the proceeding of the Committee meeting if your side will present your proposal in this regard. Then we will be able to consult with ministries concerned over your proposal.
MR. YIU:
As I said to you just ago, we will make studies on your idea if you present it to us in letters. At any rate, isn't it correct to say that since your side recognised the special background of the Koreans, your side ought to take them into your consideration?
MR, HIRAGA:
What do you mean by the special backgrounds of the Koreans in Japan?
MR. YIU:
We understand that you know them very well. lt will take quite a time and give displeasure to your side if we should explain here them all. Since the special backgrounds of the Koreans in Japan have been repeatedly referred to so far, we don't think it necessary to explain them all over again here.
MR. KATSUNO:
We hope your side will give us your opinion categorically at next meeting.
MR. YIU
We will not be able to do so unless your side gives us your idea written on paper.
MR. KATSUNO
May we send them to you within two or three days?
MR. YIU:
Then, send them to me.
MR. KATSUNO
When shall we hold next meeting?
MR. YIU:
As our side has not received written materials of your side and our side must make studies on them when presented to us, our side will contact you after that.
MR. KATSUNO:
No objection.
MR. YIU:
How about press release?
MR. KATSUNO:
How about releasing that at the Committee meeting, both sides exchanged general views on the treatment of the Koreans in Japan?
MR. YIU
No objection.
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색인어
- 이름
- YIU, Tai Ha, LEE, Ho, CHOI, Kyu Hah, EA, Chai Hang, CHIN, Pil Shik, PARK, Young, HAN, Ki Bong, LIMB, To Kyong, LEE, Won Ho, ROH, Jai Won, YASUSUKE KATSUNO, KENTA HIRAGA, SHINZO HASEGAWA, TOYOKICHI NAKAGAWA, MINORU IMAI, KIYOSHI SUGANUMA, MINAO TSUCHIYA, KEN IKEBE
- 지명
- Japan, Korea, Japan, Japan, Japan, Japan, Japan, Japan, Japan, Japan, Japan, Japan
- 관서
- Japanese Foreign Ministry, judicial court, Government of Japan
- 문서
- Japanese Immigration Control Ordinance, the Immigration Control Ordinance
- 기타
- Immigration Control Ordinance
